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This forum--housekeeping issues for Jan 2009

STIMEY D OKGM FISH
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I've pinned this topic until the question is resolved.

As indicated by the topic, this is meant to be a somewhat disposable topic, a kind of "issue" for this specific time.

While Nabble runs things smoothly enough, I can't help but feel like the way the forum is going leaves something to be desired.  When I come here looking for a response, or something else to do, I feel like I'm not seeing things clearly enough to work clearly.  Maybe the forum is like this for others, too.

What I'm thinking is that we need more "sort" boxes.  While anything may be posted into Whatever, I may move it to the TeamLiquid criticism forum for instance (you may have noticed I moved several things there), or the Disposables, Maybe forum (I moved one thing there) to suggest that they have served their purpose for anyone here and we can see if we are okay leaving them there and forgetting about them, or w/e.


When I look at the Whatever forum, I see several kinds of topics:
--Ones I am kinda awaiting further response in
--Ones I can respond more, but haven't yet
--Ones I feel like it's me who has to respond next, but I don't feel like there is enough there that I can respond with--either it's too hard to respond, or it has too much for me to think about and read before I can respond--the thread goes in too many directions and has too much for me to look @ -- in other words I need someone else to remake the topic as multiple, smaller, more focused, more written, topics.  I would mark these as, kinda, "I probably won't respond to this, but if you remake this as small, clean, well-written, multiple topics I will respond to them."  Or also, ones where there just is nothing that I can respond @, so, need to just abandon it or it needs to be rewritten basically.  chalk this section up to, Rewrite, Please? maybe  Doesn't mean it was written bad, just that it will get a quicker, better response if it's reposted as separate, clearer topics... is that unfair?

Maybe there are more topics but anyways, I feel like, it might be offensive to start sorting Whatever into categories like these, but I believe that if I did so, I would respond more and you would also more easily see which topics I'm waiting for your participation in 1 way or the other (either literally waiting for your answers, or waiting for help having something to respond to i.e. rewrite).

Because we are mainly the only 2 ppl here, this seems like it may be productive, but I don't want to do anything without your input on this, since it's just us here...
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Re: This forum--housekeeping issues for Jan 2009

STIMEY D OKGM FISH
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This thread has been open for 5 days w/o response.  If there is no response in another 5 I'm going to take that as full consent to the changes above.  Let me know if you need more time than this--let me know if you reject this, etc.
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Re: This forum--housekeeping issues for Jan 2009

perisie xx
its a good idea for now i think, perhaps something like , 4 forums under 2 main categories: Casual (active, inactive) and Non-casual (active, inactive)
is this the kinda thing you had in mind?

perhaps a better tag for "Non casual", but i think "Casual" or similar is a better term to use than "junk"
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Re: This forum--housekeeping issues for Jan 2009

STIMEY D OKGM FISH
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The point of the disposables is not to call it "junk" but to move things that truly seem to have no more purpose in anyone reading them--things that seem like 1 time messages that have expired for everyone involved.  for example, a thread that says "hey come online"--after that's over, that thread is disposable, don't you think?  The point is to save people from reading "dead" threads.  We want live ones to be more visible.

So it's not about casual vs non-casual.  It's also not about active vs inactive.

Like I said, I want to separate threads depending on what I think their status is:  If I plan to respond to it next, it goes in one box--for my purposes it would be my inbox.  For your purposes you wouldn't have to look at those because, if I've done my job, those are topics that are just waiting for my further responses.  After responding I'll move them back.

On the other side of this coin, there are many topics I am tired of seeing.  I feel like, unless you respond to them, I am just going to abandon them.  So a box for these would kind of be like your inbox.  I would make new topics here, and you would make new topics in mine.

Now I wouldn't call these "Ibsu's inbox" and "stimey's inbox" obviously.  It needs to apply to other people and be more clever than that.

Also there is a third category--ones that would be for me to respond to, but I don't think I can--need more information, more clarification, or remake, or I probably won't respond because it's too hard.

So I'm proposing the forum be divided four ways:

A Waiting for me to respond
B Waiting for you to respond
C Dead unless revised
D Disposables

I would give them cooler names that would make sense to guests.

I'm not clear if you agree yet.
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Re: This forum--housekeeping issues for Jan 2009

perisie xx
what do you think about this

a) a single (stickied?) thread for brief IOIs and disposables

i) junk will be contained, acts as storage
ii) we will know when the "unrelated IOIs" are updated easily
iii) the thread (and forum) won't get too messy
iv) other things, it feels right to me

from this thread we can extract IOIs if we want to and construct a new individual thread for them


b) i don't know if it is possible, but perhaps setting a time limit on threads (not the IOI thread) is a good way to go about it? eg auto-move-to-"inactive" if no new response for X days/weeks

c) this would be combined of course with some form of alert. not i'm not keen on the "inbox/outbox" system, i'm trying to get my head around it. it could very well work but would rely on user self-moderation. is this what you had in mind? i believe it is and i would be willing to give it a go, it might prove to be stimulating

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perisie xx
basically the system would be..



is this what u had in mind

it wud rely soley on user self moderation

and some other things

i can see it working but it does feel like some sort of "quick fix" and not a long term solution?
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Re: This forum--housekeeping issues for Jan 2009

STIMEY D OKGM FISH
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In reply to this post by perisie xx
I'm confused about this.  What is an IOI?

I think you're saying each of the two forums should have a sticky thread, where we can post whatever we want in there, and sometimes start new threads from them.


As for time limits on threads, I don't know how I feel about that.  I feel like my "sorting" goal is better, because it doesn't matter to me how old it is, only how answerable it is.  The "inbox" explanation is very hackish though, you're right.

What if it was just a single subforum added, one for threads that I feel I cannot respond to and don't think there's anything for others to respond to either... a kind of "needs work or it's dead" forum.  We could remove disposables and put the problem threads there as well.

It could be a kind of triage room for threads.  And if it's not there, then I will try to finish it.  So the normal forum(s) would work as my inbox and the triage room would work as your inbox.
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Re: This forum--housekeeping issues for Jan 2009

STIMEY D OKGM FISH
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Okay as per our pidgin conversation I've made some adjustments.  Basically I combined the "disposables" with a "chibi inbox" and called in "triage."  Threads moved here are either looking for a more respondable post from you or someone else, or I am gonna just forget about tem.  Hopefully this alone will help me focus more on the threads I consciously choose NOT to move there.

I will check out new posts in the triage forum, and move them out of there as needed.

I will be unstickying this thread and maybe moving it to triage cos its DONE.